Church IT Podcast Discussions Episode 27 April 17, 2008
Jason Powell
Recorded Live. Every time we do this, I say something about it being recorded live. I don’t know why, I just do. Today is Thursday, April 17, 2008, I have no idea which episode this is because I am coming to you live from I-80 heading East, let’s see what the elevation is. It won’t tell me the elevation, but I am 51 miles from my house, cruising speed of 63.9 miles per hour. This is the Church IT Podcast. We meet every two weeks, the first and third Thursday of the month, 2:00 pm EST to talk about IT stuff around church, non-profit, always a good time. No secret agenda today or really much of any sort of formal topics other than, I would like to get anybody’s feedback on Ministry Tech and the Roundtable as well as to, I finally got around to posting the results of the Church IT Biggest Loser Contest, so you can hit my blog, www.jasonpowell.net and you can check out the winners. We had 25 folks in the contest, total pot $500, then V 6 Systems donated a sweet GPS unit which I’m looking at right now, $200 value. Final results were Matthew Irvine, lost 50 pounds in 114 days, amazing, 18.8% lost. So he gets a nice $400 for his efforts. I magically somehow came in second, losing 39 pounds, 18.1% loss and I scored this sweet GPS. Ed Buford also lost 39 pounds, came in 3rd, his percent lost was 16 something, he is a taller dude than I am, he snagged $75. Then our own Tony Dye sneaked into 4th place at the last moment, Tony lost, I don’t remember
Tony
I don’t either, 23 I think. Something like that.
Jason
12% loss.
Tony
I have no clue, sounds good to me.
Jason
I went to everybody’s log to verify. A combined total of 360 pounds lost amongst everybody so the world is a lighter place to live in now, praise the Lord. It should be interesting to hear some of the stories coming out of that. Hopefully people will blog about how it has improved their life, and how their spouse enjoys them more, and how they’ve got more energy, yada yada. We will kick off Biggest Looser II shortly, I think we will open it up to more people, I know our Tech Arts guys, production guys, are wondering if they can join in the next one. So I supposed we could make it a church technology Biggest Looser event. If you have any feedback, let me know. If we need to spread the prizes out, or do something different. One rule, we will for sure put in there some sort of a ‘you can only lose so much % loss per week’ so that we don’t have people doing crazy dehydration things last minute.
Tony
I did not do that.
Jason
I accidentally did it. I could had first place, Matthew, I could have had you but I backed off.
Jason Lee
You wanted the GPS and not the cash.
Jason
I am enjoying the GPS a lot. It came in hugely advantageous at the Oklahoma City stuff, it is helping me get to my final destination today, somehow in Detroit, near Detroit. It’s all good. So, Biggest Looser, we’ll kick it off again. If you didn’t join the first time, here is your opportunity and for those of you like me who, I lost a lot but I’ve still got more flab here than I could stand to lose. I know Margaret, our transcriptionist was giving me some razzing about talking about our flab last time, but I still got some flab that needs to go away.
Also, Jason Lee, if you would like to, you could give us a little bit of personal news.
Jason Lee
I guess I can’t say no to that. We are expecting, Natalie is due on October 12, so we are currently trying to figure out names and all those good things. There is an envelope at home that has the gender of our little one, but we have decided not to open it as of yet, we haven’t decided if we want to know or not, but it is eating at all my co-workers knowing that the information is sitting there at the house and we won’t tell anybody and we don’t know ourselves. It’s an adventure for us and we are really excited.
Jason
Awesome! We are excited for you guys too. I think you should name it Jason and be done with it.
It’s helpful for the wife, she can just yell “Jason” and get both your attentions.
Jason Lee
Even if it is a gal, down in Tennessee where my wife taught school, she had a little girl named Jaysen in her classroom, so it can go either way.
Jason
We also had recently Trace Pumpke got a new kid and David Drinnon got a new kid, so kid action happening. Church IT people are proliferating, or something. Next topic.
Jason
Jason Lee is driving the show from the mission console, so he can mute me.
Anybody got any feedback about MinistryTech and Spring Roundtable? This was a first for Ministry Tech. Terrell Sanders does MinistryCom which has been around three years, or four years maybe, so he decided to do something very much like MinistryCom, which is getting a bunch of church communications people together, keynote speakers, workshops, time to connect with people. So he took the Roundtable concept that we’ve been doing the last couple of years and added some, made it more formal. Our events are formal but this is more formal. There were keynote speakers, there were separate workshops you could go to, and he also included audio visual stuff in it. So one of the questions, for those of you who went, is would you go again? It cost a lot more than our Roundtable events have in the past. Was it a value? Would you go again? What would you recommend we change for next time? If you have input, please input.
Tony
I’ll talk if nobody else will. I thought it was useful. It connected us to people that we didn’t otherwise know. That is a really good thing. And I can see that happening again. I was so mixed, it took me a long time to figure it out. I liked all the speakers, or all the ones I heard at least, I thought it was useful stuff but it just wasn’t ‘knock it out of the park’ stuff, and it finally dawned on me, it was because it was all us. I want to go somewhere and learn something that I don’t hear from reading Jason’s blog or whatever. And it was different, so I’m not trying to put it down, but I’d like to go hear about some technology that I otherwise wouldn’t get a chance to hear. Now is that a Ministry Tech thing, is that a Church IT Roundtable thing, is that I just need to go some places occasionally? I don’t know, but that would be a wish list of mine. Right now, I’m not sure I want to go spend whatever hundred dollars to go to Ministry Tech to not see that much stuff that really builds up. Same time, if that’s the opportunity to meet with other people and there was no technology, just hanging out with guys, I’d pay to do that. That’s my speech.
Jason
So you’d go back again?
Tony
Yes, given the other options, which are none, yes, I’d go back again.
Jason
Now if you had to choose, I’m going to put you on the spot since you are willing to talk, let’s supposed you had to choose between the Roundtable Event that we put on or Ministry Tech?
Tony
Based on what we had last time, I would choose the Roundtable absolutely. Based on the opportunity Terrell has to rachet it up, I might do otherwise. We better not schedule them on the same day, I would find a way.
Jason
Exactly, I’m kinda in the same boat. I loved it from the fact that I got to hang out with you guys and meet some new people that I just read about on the blog, so that networking time feeds in. Again, I didn’t learn anything huge, or oh my goodness, new and awesome, but just the chance to hang out with people, toss ideas around, vent some frustrations possibly, here we are understood. But I’m with you also in the respect that it was missing something and I can’t put my finger on it other than the fact that I didn’t come away with any technology knowledge that blew me away. Comparing it to the Houston Roundtable, when I walked away from Houston Roundtable, there was a lot of technology that was new there. Stuff like San Melody stuff, there was some desktop authority products that I hadn’t recognized before. Again, I don’t know exactly how you work that in to Ministry Tech.
Other feedback?
Jason Lee
I think the one thing I walked away with, I think part of the reason why it wasn’t that in-depth wow-me with technology was because of the audience Carol was trying to address was both AV and IT, which I think is a great thought process. My one thing that I thought might happen that didn’t, was the expectation that we would actually talk about how AV and IT are integrating or aren’t integrating, and how maybe some of the new AV technology has requirements for IT to come along side and partner with them. So I felt that the overall gist of Ministry Tech was a little boiled down, diluted maybe, it didn’t allow us to hone in specifically on IT because of the target audience that was there. So if we are going to bridge that and have AV IT, let’s acknowledge and harness that partnership rather than causing it to seem like the elephant in the room.
Jason
I’m with you. So what do we tell Terrell then? Do we say, “Your event has great potential, let’s get rid of the AV part?” Or say, “Why don’t we do something more with actually getting somebody who really knows the bridge between IT and AV?” I’m sure there’s some AV stuff that would be helpful for me to know to be able to support our guys better. Or even just what’s coming down the pipe, I have no idea what the next thing is on the AV side of things. Everything has an IP address now, so it is on the network.
Jason Lee
Well even understanding what does technology need from IT. Does it need its own vlan, does it need its own subnet? To better serve those pieces of equipment that just because they have a IP address [MS?] in them doesn’t mean that you just plug them in and let them run DACT.
Mark
Can you do a quick recap of what we’re talking about so I can catch up?
Jason
We’re just chatting about Ministry Tech and the Roundtable and debriefing on it as far as what works, what improvements could be made.
Tony
The Houston Roundtable, where we did bring in the other technology stuff, technically that wasn’t part of the Roundtable, that was extraneous to the Roundtable, it just happened to be adjacent to it. Would we want to try something like that? I know Trace is on and thinking about that for this fall, would we want to bring on some technology vendors? It takes time. That’s a hard thing to deal with. Do we want to extend the life of the event across multiple days? We’ve talked about the fact that we travel and go to these new cities and never see them. I’d like to have some free time in there. So I kind of want to only be there for 2 days but have 6 days worth of events and a bunch of free time and a bunch of social time. So partially we are working against ourselves. But something like Ministry Tech gives us an ability to do some of that stuff that we might not be able to do with our current free model.
Jason Lee
I think we’ve all arrived that it doesn’t have to be free, it just has to be worth the value. How do we quantify that?
Jason
Right. And how do you make the technology something that can bridge all different sizes of church? Like I’m interested in stuff like data domain, but for a small church? They can’t even afford a SAN, it would still be interesting for them to hear about data domain and off-site replication but the reality is, that’s so far above what they are needing right now.
Jason Lee
I think that is the responsibility of the planner to facilitate, if we’re gonna have an event that has this type of a workshop that’s not going to meet the target audience as a whole, then what option B is available for that target audience that might give you a little more for them?
Jason
And if it’s only a half-hour presentation, you listen to it for half an hour and surf the web during that time or whatever.
Tony
Or again, think about a multi-day event with the traditional Roundtable on one day, a wide open set of seminars on a second day that’s got broad appeal and maybe have another day with heavy hitting stuff for the big church people. So that not everybody has to be there the whole time and still walks away with good value.
Jason
Right, and I heard more than one person say, “What about, not as big into the deep technology aspects of it, I just want to talk church IT management, like staffing and leadership and up the chain and how you lead your team well and those sort of things.”
Jason Lee
I felt that was one big thing missing from Ministry Tech was that component, and I don’t know that we’ve done it well at a Roundtable but continuing to learn to be a better ministry or continuing to be whatever that component is, especially learning how to do our jobs better, and that’s not tech, that’s clearly professional, but I felt it could have been a lot at Ministry Tech than there was. I was surprised by that.
Jason
Good. I mean are we getting to the size too that our traditional Roundtable model starting to break down, maybe we should have two tracks during the day or split it up somehow? I don’t know. I bring Ed Buford along and he is obviously as our network administrator be seeking a different set of questions and answers than I do. So if we start talking about leadership stuff, he may tune out. Or budget, he is not going to care about that, to the extent that he is responsible for it. It’s somewhat like what we did at Church of the Resurrection where we kind of busted out into topic bizarre.
Cliff
Yes, that was the topic bizarre. That was just an idea of having a vendor fair and talk about whatever you want to, so that did have that effect a little bit. But I think it would be a good idea to have maybe a two-hour session that would be a management/leadership session and maybe at the same time, we have a parallel network operations session and a parallel desktop session or whatever the right break down would be. 2 to 3 break down sessions more targeted.
Jason
Maybe like after lunch or something.
David Szpunar
Does it make sense to record them at that point?
Some people are management and day-to-day, it would be handy to hear both even if you can’t attend both.
Jason Lee
That does make sense. It would be nice to absorb something from another session.
Szp
Like for me, even though I fall in the larger church category, I still do a lot of hands on and still in leadership position so I need both also.
Jason
Where’s the easy button?
I think these are great.
Jason Lee
For what you’re planning in the fall, for Roundtable, are we better off, if we’re going to be there for multiple days to separate the Roundtable into maybe 2 6-hour events. To facilitate these kinds of events, is it better off to do Roundtable one day for 8 hours or 2 Roundtable days for 5 hours? Just throwing that out there.
Trace
As is obvious here, we all can’t come up with a good way to do this yet, but what I’m trying to make sure is that we have the facilities set up so that if we decide to do one large half-day or whatever, we’ll have that space ready to go. Also we’ll have multiple rooms for smaller break-outs, so we just need to start hammering details and trying to decide on how we want to run this. Like Church of the Resurrection, I liked how that went. I think there are some things that could be tweaked. I remember some of the comments from there, the facilitators felt they were more having to lead the room than being part of the conversation and learn something. So I guess, how many things do we want to try to fix for this time around. I’m trying to make sure we have all the facilities and resources for however we want to do it.
Cliff
I have a couple of ideas to throw out and maybe they will need to be a deeper discussion outside the podcast, but a couple of ideas. One of them to me when we were sitting in the room at Crossings a couple weeks ago, that those of us who have actually had experience hosting a Roundtable should form a little team including you because you are next, to discuss the whole network issue of how we make this work for all these people and all their laptops and wan activity, it hasn’t been as much of an issue with the lan, so that’s one thing, how do we come up with a network infrastructure to make that really work for this? In my experience, we never have put the kind of demand on our network that we put when all of you guys were here, so I don’t really have a way of testing that and knowing that it is going to work before you came. So I’m thinking that those of us who have gone through that need to form a team with you and see if we can share with you what we’ve learned. Believe it or not, what I’m talking about is related to the question on the table, how can we have break-outs and still know what was said in the other room? The other piece of what we are thinking about right now is the experimentation that went on down at Crossings with video. That video is the biggest demand on the network, so I’ve been having some conversations internally with my team and we think that it might be possible with a little software development, and by the grace of God we have some of that talent on our team here, that maybe we could do a little bit of software development involving flash streaming that would let us produce something on the lan. The problem we had at Crossings, we were trying to send all these feeds up to the lan and do the production on the Internet side, and so we’re trying to figure out if there is a way we can produce it on the lan side and have only one actual stream going out from the lan to the wan.
Trace
That gives me a thought in talking to my video guy about all these rooms we have that tie back to our main video control booth that we might be able to do something like that. But we can get into more of those details, I can start talking to my video guy about those capabilities, producing something as we go.
Cliff
What I think we need to do, each time we get together we learn something, and I think that is one of the great things about the Roundtable is that we are all sort of willing to try things that don’t work, and every time we do that, we learn something. We are on a track here that will eventually allow us to include a lot of people that are not physically at the Roundtable in the Roundtable in a cool way. Whatever that technique is, that same technique would be a potential way of solving the problem of what happens if we do multiple break-outs and somebody is a one-person IT shop and they really want to attend all 3 break-outs. Whatever that technique is for including a larger group, involving video and streaming and on-demand playback, you could always go back home then and sit and watch and be able to hear what was said in those other rooms. That’s the idea we are kicking around here.
Jason
I was driving down the road for two minutes talking away before I realized the connection had dropped. That two-minute span was the only good thing I had to say today. CIA has it on tape somewhere.
Do we not even dork with trying to make this thing streamable up front? We just get some HD video cameras and record it? There will be post-production needs.
Jason Lee
Well we did that in Houston and never did anything with it. If we are going to do it where it is all post-production, we need to commit that we are actually going to do something. Otherwise it is a wasted time investment when nothing happens with it.
Szp
Or the way to recording it is ready to go out instead of going to tape and having to digitize it all then send it out.
Jason Lee
I think that’s why it was attractive because people could engage in it immediately, but a lot of people don’t engage immediately. [Feedback, missing some of it]. Stream it back into the control panel. I think there is value in making that available live. We are all busy and by the time we get back home, it is not a priority of those who have attended to want to make that available. Although we have the distribution point like the channel, there is value in that in my mind.
Tony
I’ll repeat here that Mogulus, f we had good audio, that would have been a winner. Now there is the related question, how much did that consume you managing that Jason and you ended up not being part of the conversation?
Jason Lee
It wasn’t too bad because you can have multiple people controlling it. Anybody running a camera at that point could be in the production side of it, so it wasn’t a big deal for me. I don’t have a hard time talking when I have something to say, so I don’t think you have to worry about that.
Jason
How much is a good directional microphone? It seems like that piece, it’s a pain in the butt to try to put a bunch of microphones at everybody’s desk.
Jason Lee
Specifically from Mogulus, the solution that Dave Mast and I came up with in our dialogue a couple weeks ago was to use the microphone input on the device that had the camera attached and take that audio feed rather than the camera audio feed and you would capture the audio into a mixer from one, two or three microphones, mix it down and then distribution it out to the laptops. You are actually sending the signal as many times as you have cameras but it’s the same audio signal no matter which camera. It’s a solution, it may not be the best way to do it.
Mark
We’re looking over here for some omni-directional and you guys are looking [cutting out]
Jason
I watch a little sports every once in a while and the way to get good audio at a good distance is you have a sweet little parabolic directional microphone and somebody has to be in charge of pointing, but you get some sweet audio, and if you could pipe that audio into your mixer and that’s your audio source for that room, just an idea.
Jason
Rent it for a couple days.
Tony
Get equipment, get somebody to operate it, other than us maybe, who can really pay attention to what’s going on. Maybe it is us, it may go either way, but being intentional about it could make a lot happen.
Szp
I think if we would have had a few more hours notice than we did, we planned this on the way to Wal-mart the night before, so a little more preparation ahead of time would do wonders.
Tony
But it was incredibly successful considering that you did that all in 2 or 3 hours.
Szp
Not only was it successful but there was something that was learned, which is that we do have an issue with the audio and I don’t know how we would have learned that any other way.
Jason Lee
Well who knows why the camera that was on Michael’s computer decided to have a nice hum the entire time, we basically had to dump all those clips, you couldn’t hear the audio at all. So even testing a few things would have been wise, but it was a success for the effort that we put into it.
Jason
How many churches have teen-agers that for a small fee per hour would be willing to run camera or run audio?
Szp
We could do that. Was I muted? What I said was my audio guys are looking through our audio equipment to see if there is stuff we can donate for mics and equipment, we have lots of stuff we’ve had in the past or replaced recently that we might be able to use, including directional mics and omnidirectional mics.
Jason Lee
Leads me to think what partnerships and what bridge building do we need to continue to do with our AV guys and our local churches and say this is what we tried to do and we want to try to do something like it again and seeing what’s on hand instead of trying to get that.
Jason
Did Trace announce the tentative dates for the Fall Roundtable?
Jason Lee
No and he is now dropped off.
Tony
According to my view, Trace is talking right now. I expect yours is more accurate.
Szp
October 8-10th.
Jason
Tentative, don’t book flights yet. Charleston. We’re talking about just how to manage the Roundtable part of it, then we’ve got our spouses that are wanting to come as well, there are some spousal management parts to it.
Sp
Have you ever been able to manage your spouse?
Jason
I knew somebody would say something about that.
Sp
My wife is already making plans, she doesn’t care what I’m doing.
Jason
It’s Charleston, who wouldn’t want to come. We are also kicking around going to see ACS maybe, and touring their facility. It needs to be a week long. I don’t know how you do it any other way. And that’s cool. A lot of events I’ve been to, a day or two goes by and you are ready to go home. And the Roundtable stuff, I wish my wife and family could be there, but I feel a little sad leaving each time because I know I won’t get to see you guys for another half-year or so.
Trace
I’m on my cell phone.
Jason
We were just saying that Fall Roundtable needs to be a week long.
Trace
We can do it. We can even cancel church for the weekend if you want to make it 7 days. Of course I would probably be out of a job the next day.
Jason
We could put you back to work, maybe not for pay.
Jason Lee
Isn’t Justin hiring? Didn’t I see on the IRC he started his own business?
Jason
For those of you not in the IRC Channel, Austin, we’ve been dorking around with web cams, so if you’ve got a webcam, get yourself on ustream and send the link to Justin Moore and he will add you to the church IT webcam aggregator page if you have nothing better to do, you can come and watch myself and Justin and Trace and David sitting at our desks doing whatever we do. And what’s surprising is there are about 9 people every day watching me. It is a little creepy. But it’s all good. I’m enjoying watch Trace every once in a while fire up the Wii at his desk and play Zelda or whatever it is. That’s awesome.
Trace
That’s my lunch break.
Jason
Awesome, relieve some tension.
What else? Any other grand questions or ideas?
I wish I was not under this NBA, because this thing I saw yesterday which is not fully beta yet, has got such great potential for us churches, so I am really hopeful that these guys will continue to move along and I am hammering them hard on not for profit pricing, I have them the whole spill on Microsoft’s non-profit pricing and why most churches are using Microsoft, because it is easy and cheap. It’s gonna be sweet, in theory. Anything else?
What’s our time so far?
Jason Lee
49 minutes.
Jason
I am in Michigan crossing the Kalamazoo River.
Sp
Did we hear the date for the Fall Roundtable?
Trace
I was about to bring that up. We are looking at October 8th, 9th, and 10th. Mark it on your calendars but don’t book anything yet. We’ll let you know as things progress.
Jason
The hope is that we can get a hotel hooked up so we can all stay in the same place.
Trace
Maybe we can trade services. I am going to warn all of them that they better have some bandwidth ready.
Jason
As long as there is Verizon EVDO.
Trace
Bunch of us get trial cards from Verizon and then we’ll get the routers and build our own network.
Jason
Yes, maybe they could be a sponsor.
Sp
Ian and I were on Spring EVDO in the hotel in Oklahoma City and between the two of us, we pretty much killed the tower. I think our usage model doesn’t fit their stats. I think the wireless idea is going to work.
Sp
I’m not sure I want to stay at a hotel where 100 other IT guys are, I’m going somewhere else.
Sp
That was the one bad thing, all of us were using it at the same time and the video guys were playing around with webcams in their rooms and it was like somebody dimmed the lights.
Sp
The Holiday Inn Express we took it down an entire day over there on the other side, I think we took every hotel we were staying at down.
Jason
We just need some way to hack into the router, give ourselves our own static IP address, put some QOS on the router so that we get priority and we’re good. I’m not sure how Biblical that is but.
Sp
Jason Powell is already on the list for wanting to take a screwdriver on the plane to stab people in the neck so why not have everyone listening to the podcast hear JP say he wants to hack routers at hotels.
Sp
I’m hoping to talk to our fiber provider and see if they will be a sponsor for those days, max out our connections fee, so we’ll have plenty of in and out bandwidth.
Jason
That’s the cool thing about fiber, you can light it up whenever you want. Now we are moving on our fiber connection and I asked our rep if I call up and have it turned on or have it turned off within two days, and she said it is a 30-day window for AT&T in our area, it appears, so if you want it turned up, you can but you gotta leave it turned up for 30 days.
Sp
Who is your provider for fiber?
Jason
AT&T. We got quotes from Comcast, it was ridiculous, just the build fee was 8 grand. Got a hold of our new AT&T rep and she was like gung ho about the church and what we were doing, so she brought her top two technical dudes along and we spent four hours with those guys just brain-storming what we’re doing and our future thoughts and possible communications needs and they were just awesome. So they are going to give us fiber through the metro net in our area now with no build costs, no installation fees, just the monthly service. So we’re moving. We will probably start with a 5 meg, versatile to 10 configuration unless I can strong arm Kim Myer into letting us go a flat 10 to begin with. But we are hammering our Dual T1, we hammer them all day long. At night time or early a.m. we are hammering them on the upstream because of Mozy doing it’s thing, then the staff show up at 9:00 it pegs out and runs pegs until about 5:00.
Justin
Did you happen to catch what I said you were plotting yesterday in the IRC Channel?
Jason
I was not paying super close attention.
Justin
I accused you of trying to get Kem and several of the other GCC staff hooked on Ustream so you could justify it.
Jason
Yes, I tried that.
Justin
Great plan.
Jason
I sent my webcam streamlink to my boss, said, “I don’t know why you would care but if you want to watch me sitting at my desk, or just to know if I’m at my desk or not, here’s the link.” And she was like, “This is so cool!” And five minutes later, she’s got her webcam hooked up and Ustreaming and hosting it and other people are coming to watch, she was pretty excited about it. Again, not sure what the value is in it yet, but it seems like there is something you can do with that.
Jason Lee
It would be nice to figure out a way to make it a tool for a conference call.
Jason
With that Mogulus stuff, you almost need to be able to run it in-house, do all the production work on a VM server in-house and then shoot it out the pipe. It’s gonna get there.
Jason Lee
We are at the one hour mark.
Jason
Anything else? Tentative Charleston dates. We came up with no real solutions for the future Ministry Tech Roundtables. Good ideas. Maybe the next podcast we do, we can steer it towards what we want to do with the CITRT website, a portal to be able to gather information. Right now, we’ve got stuff spewed all over the place, and that’s working but if we at least had some way to shift it all to a central location, I think there’s some good help in that. So we’ve got a Google site that we can talk about some ideas on what you would like to see on a Church IT Roundtable site. I’d love to have a prayer request thing on there, so if you’ve got a family issue or a praise, you can slap it up on the site, I get the RSS feed and I can celebrate with you or pray for you, I think that would be awesome. Plus a way to do the Church IT survey better, more efficient. Yes a church IT ebay, church IT community calendar, what’s going on, when, where, stuff happening every month or two in Atlanta, there’s going to be a Roundtable at Northwoods in June.
Tony
Yes, he said June 12th is tentative.
Jason
I’m doing something at GCC September 16th I think it is. So stuff is bubbling here and there and it would be nice to have one place to go get the information instead of going to Tony’s blog looking at his blog for something that I may have forgotten. And even getting all the podcast transcriptions over into Google so it’s maybe more Google search friendly. We can save that all for next time, that’ll be good discussion. Also if you have ideas you’d like to see for the podcast, please let us know. Maybe a vendor you think would be great to have on. We’ve been talking the idea of high density wireless, maybe we get somebody to chat with us, get somebody from Aruba network to chat with us, get somebody from Sonic Wall to chat with us. Or other stuff. The moonwalk product.
Tony
Moonwalkis a great one to talk about.
Jason
If you’ve got any connections with them already.
Tony
Yes, I have a couple guys we could pull in to talk about different storage things including Moonwalk, so that’s a real possibility. I’ve already started talking to them and they are interested.
Jason
Cool, that would be awesome. I’m entering Spring Arbor, probably a great time to disconnect. I think my GPS is leading me down these back roads. At any rate, thanks everybody for showing up. So whenever you are ready to hit the stop button.
If you’ve got any of the chat logs, email it to me gccjason@gmail
Cool, thanks everybody.
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